Column: I hoped the DMV's eLearning license renewal would be a snap. It wasn't (2024)

For months, my advice to anyone renewing a California driver’s license has been direct and unwavering:

Do not go to a DMV field office and struggle with the written tests, which have been littered with confusing and irrelevant questions. Do go online, instead, and from the comfort of your own home, take the “NO FAIL” eLearning course.

So, when I got my license renewal notice in the mail a few weeks ago, I knew just what to do.

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Or so I thought.

I was hoping for an easy cruise around the block, like the dozens of readers who sent me their endorsem*nts of eLearning.

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It’s “fantastic,” said Robert, a Studio City psychologist, who found eLearning “less stressful” than the traditional test because you’re at home and there are no “picky” or “vague” questions. He completed the course, which is more of a driver-ed rules-of-the-road refresher than a test, and finished up with the required trip to a field office for a photo and an eye exam.

But others wrote to me in frustration, saying they couldn’t figure out how to access eLearning, or that it hiccuped and froze, or that they went to DMV offices to complete the process and were told there was no record of them having taken the course.

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Now it was time for me to roll the dice.

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I turned on my computer, went to DMV.CA.GOV and easily navigated to a tab for “standard driver’s license ID” and “REAL ID driver’s license/ID.” I already had REAL ID, so I proceeded on a path to a standard renewal and was prompted to set up a DMV account (which was swell because who isn’t dying to memorize another username and password?). That took several minutes, and then I bumped up against the first of several glitches.

A yellow caution sign informed me: “You are not eligible for online renewal right now.”

But directly beneath that warning was this:

“To save time, start the process to renew online and finish your renewal at a DMV office.”

So what was it going to be? Was I eligible? Ineligible? Had I entered the DMV twilight zone?

I clicked on the “to save time” line and eventually landed at the Virtual Test Center, so apparently I wasn’t ineligible after all. There, I was given a choice of eLearning or the “Online Knowledge Test,” a digital version of the regular written test, which I knew to avoid.

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Column: I hoped the DMV's eLearning license renewal would be a snap. It wasn't (2)

In California, if you’re 70 or older, you’re required to take a test to renew your license — every five years.

(Kent Nishimura / Los Angeles Times)

I chose eLearning and proceeded to the payment page, where I was instructed to hand over the $45 renewal fee. But after I put it on my credit card, I was abandoned, like someone who was dumped out of a car on the side of the road. There was no way to click forward or click back.

A well-designed program would have made the next step crystal clear. Instead, I was closed out of the application system. I checked texts and emails, but couldn’t find any confirmation of my $45 payment. I went back into my DMV account, but couldn’t figure out how to pick up where I had left off.

Had I made a mistake? Had the system crashed?

I decided to repeat the whole process, and paid another $45, assuming my first payment had never been processed. And as soon as I did, I was closed out again, just like before.

I looked back through emails from readers who’d had similar problems. I scanned the DMV website for any clues as to what had gone wrong. And then I saw that I’d just been sent two emails from the DMV saying the agency had received my two applications for REAL-ID, with two identical sets of instructions to visit a DMV office and produce proof of citizenship and residency.

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There was no mention of eLearning.

It’s worth noting that DMV director Steve Gordon was a tech executive who left Silicon Valley five years ago on a mission to reform and modernize the notoriously backward, user-unfriendly agency. He wanted to make it easier for customers to conduct business from home rather than having to grow old standing in line at field offices.

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The E in eLearning, he once told me, stands for “enjoyment.”

I was beginning to wonder when the enjoyment would begin. I was now $90 in the hole with nothing to show for it. So I called DMV spokesperson Anita Gore to tell her about the glitches, and while we were chatting, I got an email that caught my attention.

“Please stop telling us the DMV online services work,” said La Crescenta resident Mary Mirch, whose timing was perfect.

Mirch, a retired college administrator, said she was applying for a license renewal and trying to get to the eLearning course, but instead received confirmation of an application for REAL-ID.

But, like me, she hadn’t applied for REAL-ID.

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DMV director Steve Gordon was a tech executive who left Silicon Valley five years ago on a mission to reform and modernize the agency.

(Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times)

I thanked her for proving that I wasn’t a dummy.

Like me, Mirch repeated the entire process, got the same result the second time around, and was in a DMV online holding pattern for 45 minutes, waiting for help.

“What a mess,” she said.

More than an hour after my troubles began, the first sign of hope arrived by email. The DMV sent me a link to the eLearning course. Mirch said she eventually got a link, too, about two hours after she applied.

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Several questions came to mind:

Why weren’t we told, after payment, to look for an emailed link to eLearning in a couple of hours?

Why did we have to wait for an email link at all, rather than going straight from payment to eLearning?

And why did we get instructions to complete REAL-ID applications?

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Mirch and I agreed the system is unnecessarily clunky and confusing, or at least it was on the day we tried to use it. The DMV recommends eLearning, which began two years ago, so why not drop other options? It would also help to clean up all the confusing clutter on the web pages and have a tab that says, simply, “If you’re 70 and older and want to use the eLearning course to renew your driver’s license, click here.”

Estela Lopez, executive director of the L.A. Downtown Industrial District, told me she’s pretty tech savvy but had roughly the same experience Mirch and I had.

“It makes you feel dumb, and that’s what I don’t want seniors to feel,” Lopez said. She was under the impression, thanks to the REAL-ID snafu, that she was supposed to take her passport and utility bills to the DMV office when it was time for her photo and eye exam. So she did as instructed, only to be told she didn’t need any of that.

“I just want them to understand that no, we’re not clicking on the wrong tab, we’re not pressing the wrong button,” Lopez said. “They’re not putting enough marketing and love into this. If they were, it wouldn’t be this confusing.”

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There’s one more thing that Mary Mirch, Estela Lopez and I have in common.

We all thought the eLearning course was pretty good, when we finally got to it.

It’s a vast improvement over the traditional multiple choice test. You can start and stop the video, working at your own pace, with seven animated mini-courses offering refreshers on the rules of the road and safe navigation. One section was a bit like a video game in which you have to click on a parked vehicle and safely drag it into the correct lane of traffic on a busy road.

At the end of each section, you get a short quiz with three possible answers, and if you guess wrong, you can guess again. No trick questions. No dumb questions. No need to study a handbook before starting.

I was done in about 45 minutes, and my visit to the Glendale DMV office for a new photo and an eye exam was a snap. Office managers Wanda Jackson and Patty Carranza were working the windows with good cheer and actually telling clients it was a pleasure to serve them. Having made an appointment ahead of time helped get me past long lines, and I was in and out in 30 minutes.

So I think there have been improvements in the DMV culture under Gordon’s reign, and if you need to renew your license after 70, eLearning is indeed the way to go. The problem is getting there.

I forwarded emails from several exasperated readers to the DMV, along with no-brainer fixes suggested by Mirch. Gore told me the DMV appreciates the feedback and is working on improvements, including a fix of the REAL ID glitch and “making our website language more clear.”

OK, I’ll keep an eye on that. But in the state that’s home to Silicon Valley, at a public agency run by a former tech executive, it shouldn’t take this long to get it right.

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steve.lopez@latimes.com

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Column: I hoped the DMV's eLearning license renewal would be a snap. It wasn't (2024)

FAQs

Why am I not eligible to renew my license online in California? ›

If you are not the person named on the renewal notice, you will not be eligible to renew. If you would like to change your name or gender identity, you need to do so before renewing online. Name or gender identity changes must be processed at your local DMV office.

What is eLearning at DMV? ›

Renewing your driver's license? Take eLearning to satisfy the knowledge test requirement. This pass-only, no-fail, interactive online course has seven short sections with quizzes after each section. You can take it using a computer, laptop, tablet or smartphone and it takes about 20 to 30 minutes to complete.

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You can't renew online and must visit a DMV facility if: You need to take a written examination or a road test. You need to submit an updated medical or vision report. You want a REAL ID-compliant driver's license or ID card.

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Online License Renewal Requirements

You cannot renew your Florida driver's license online if: You last renewed your license online, by mail or over the phone. You are not a U.S. citizen or permanent resident. You are renewing a Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

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Why can't everyone renew their registration online? Sometimes you need to share certain documents with DMV, like an insurance card. You can't renew online in that case because DMV needs to have that information on file in order to process your renewal online.

How early can I renew my CA driver's license online? ›

Every California license expires on your birthday five years after it's issued. You can renew your license up to six months before expiration and up to two months after it's expired. About two months prior to the expiration you should receive a renewal notice in the mail from the California DMV.

What is eLearning access? ›

eLearning courses leverage electronic technology to deliver structured training or education, replacing traditional person-to-person knowledge transfer. These courses are accessible through online eLearning software, allowing learners to engage on computers or mobile devices.

Is the California driver's ed course legit? ›

California Online Drivers Ed (CDE) – This is a DMV-approved online course that covers the required curriculum of an instructor-led course. It's a good option for those who want to fulfill the state's educational requirements for obtaining a learner's permit.

Do you have to take a written test to renew your license in California? ›

Take the knowledge test(s) (if required). Your renewal notice will indicate if you need to take a knowledge test. You are allowed three attempts to pass each of the required knowledge tests. If you fail the same test three times, your application is no longer valid and you will need to reapply.

Why is my customer not eligible for online license renewal at this time in NJ? ›

Why? You may NOT be eligible to renew your license online if… Your license expired beyond the approved extension period • Your license has been suspended • Your license has a Temporary Visa Restriction (TVR) • Your license is a CDL You can renew your license in-person at a Licensing Center.

Why am I not eligible to renew my license online in Washington state? ›

You must renew in person at a driver licensing office if you: Are 70+ years old. Need to pass the vision screening. Need a new photo taken.

Why am I not eligible to renew my license online in Virginia? ›

You cannot renew your driver's license online or by mail IF: You renewed online or by mail during your prior renewal cycle. Your driver's license has been expired for more than 12 months. You are required to prove legal presence.

Why am I not eligible to renew my driver's license online in Texas? ›

You are eligible to renew your DL online if: You are 78 or younger. People 79 or older must renew in person. You are renewing a Class C, M, or CM license.

How long do you have to renew your driver's license after it expires in Florida? ›

(7) An expired Florida driver license may be renewed any time within 12 months after the expiration date, with reexamination, if required, upon payment of the required delinquent fee or taking and passing the written examination.

Do I have to retake a driving test if my license expires in Florida? ›

Additionally, drivers with a Class E license that has expired for more than one year will also need to retake the knowledge exam and vision test to renew their license. The renewal fee is $48.00, which doesn't include any processing or service fees. The late fee assessed is $15.00.

What does it mean when DMV says eligibility record not found? ›

Conversation. "Eligibility Record Not Found" means that you are not eligible to renew your driver license online. If you check your renewal notice, there may be a required vision test, thumb print and photo needed to renew your license. A knowledge test may also be required.

Can seniors renew drivers license online in California? ›

If you are 70+ years of age, the DL renewal process – including taking the open book no-fail eLearning course – can be started online. Get started with the easy step-by-step Driver's License Renewal for 70+ Road Map. If you haven't already upgraded to a REAL ID, now is the perfect opportunity to do so.

What is the fastest way to renew your driver's license in California? ›

Processing Times
  1. DMV Kiosk: Instantly if all renewal requirements are met.
  2. Online: 1 week.
  3. Phone: 1 week.
  4. Mail: 2 weeks.

Can I renew my California driver's license over the phone? ›

Note that if you choose to renew your driver's license by phone, you need to be able to pay by credit or debit card, and this will incur an extra processing fee.

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